Thanks Darryl, I wanted to have a conversation in both places to see if we could get more traction.
I’ve written a very short blog post that helped my thought process… I have lots to work on going forward… Here is the link https://www.elizabethahutchinson.com/post/bringing-fosil-and-school-pedagogy-together-a-new-vision-for-inquiry-based-learning
Ok, I have just been re-reading your ACCESS article and in your first paragraph you say that it is a pedagogical model… that is a relief… I need to discuss this more with you as I have just begun to understand what we are talking about…. Maybe our next podcast!
Hi Darryl, I have posted this question on LinkedIn too but thought it would be good to discuss it here. Schools talk about their pedagogy and I was wondering if we are saying that FOSIL is a pedagogy? I was talking to my son about the Tridium method of Grammar, Logic and Rhetoric… when he was talking about it I thought it sounded similar to the philosophy of FOSIL… is my thinking going in the right direction?
Hi Jannath, I am only just following up on a few posts here and came across yours. Thanks for sharing your lesson. It would be great to hear what the RE teacher thought of this project and if it went well. From the looks of the slides it has been well thought out and should have ended in a great discussion and learning.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Jenny. I often tell the librarians I train, not to put too much into one lesson. It is far better for our students to learn one thing well than a lot of nothing. I like the idea of giving students time to try out what you have just shown them whilst you are still there to support them. It helps to link what they have just learnt with what they are now doing… which is essential when they come across another piece of research in another part of the curriculum.
How exciting for you Jannath. I am sure Darryl and Jenny will be along in a while with lots of words of wisdom but I just wanted to let you know that I run a membership for school librarians on the same path. I do have some free resources that you can dip in and out of but give me a shout if I can be any help. My email is [email protected] and my website can be found here
Best Wishes
Elizabeth
Hi Darry has this book been published yet? If so can you give me a link to the publication? Thanks.
How exciting is this! I am presenting at this conference too. My session is Front and Centre: AI, Education and School Libraries. Why Action is Important Now.
Programme description
This talk explores the dynamic intersection of artificial intelligence (AI) and school libraries, inspiring school librarians to embrace AI in their educational settings. I will share insights into my ongoing research and training efforts, emphasising the potential transformative impact of AI on school libraries. This presentation will delve into how AI can be leveraged to initiate meaningful conversations (podcasting and conferences) thereby increasing the profile of school libraries within the broader education landscape. Lastly, I will offer a personal perspective on integrating AI within my own business, illustrating practical applications and highlighting the potential for innovation within the realm of school libraries.
Hi Jannath, thank you for sharing your plan so far. It is really useful to see how others are going about using FOSIL. Your booklet looks like it will be full of some really useful teaching and learning. If you could share it, it would be great to see how you set this out.
As far as the construct stage goes you do not need to teach the whole cycle, just focus on construct. It will depend on how long you have to teach this but I would start by encouraging them to talk about what they have learnt and understood about the topic they have just studied. What can they teach you or their peers about the topic? They already have all the information they need they now just need to pull the important information together to demonstrate their learning. This page is a good one to start with, although I am sure you have already found this… I would also be using this resource… Main points from my own research found here… and this one about drawing conclusions.
I am sure others will be along to give you some more ideas but do keep us informed about what you plan going forward and how the sessions went.
I just wanted to take the opportunity to share my latest podcast AI: Friend or Foe. The School Librarians Perspective. I was joined by Darry and Jenny Toerien and Dr Kay Oddone. I hope you find it adds to this very interesting conversation.
Good Morning All, Kay Oddone has just shared this article on Twitter written by Barbara Fister and Alison J. Head Getting a grip on ChatGPT Certainly and interesting read and one to add to our collection above.
Hi Jenny, thanks for your very interesting and thoughtful comments. I too heard Michael Rosen’s interview and found it deeply worrying especially as many people seem to either be jumping headlong into the ‘what it can do for me’ or the ‘head in the sand’ camps and neither are helpful. I do feel that as school librarians we have to find a way to understand and work with it. These forum discussions are useful to all of us to help us understand and work out a way forward.
Highlighting the concerns is one way like you have above, but we also need to find ethical ways to work with it too. I remember when Wikipedia came into our schools and there was very clearly a wave of ‘you should not use it’ but if we had taken the time to understand it a little more we would have got to the place we are now, quicker. Which I feel is, like you said Jenny, ‘can be a helpful starting point’.
I do have concerns about students using it for research purposes without the knowledge and understanding about where the information comes from. This is an interesting role for school librarians and one we should not shy away from. Although there are many concerns I do think we need to find a positive way to use this technology. After all it is here to stay so lets find ways to use it ethically and cautiously. Our students of today will be using this technology within the professions of the future. We can’t put it back in the box and pretend it is not there.
I can understand why teachers are getting excited about using it as it seems to make the everyday tasks quicker, like lesson planning for example. It seems to me that if these tasks can be supported by AI then this is a positive thing.
We also need to remember that a large majority of our population, teachers and students have still not been anywhere near it, for some of the reasons you gave Jenny such as, no access to technology, but others really are not ready to work out what this can do yet or don’t see it as part of their lives.
This does not come across in main stream media or social media as you would imagine that everyone is engage which really is not the case. We are at the beginning of this wave and with our information expertise hats on we can be at the forefront of helping others find a way to work with it with understanding. We have always said that an independent learner is someone who know where to find the quality information quickly and this still is true. Just because AI is there does not mean it is the best place to find your answers and we just need to keep explain why this is still the case.
With all the concerns pointed out above and understanding that we can’t stop this wave. What can school librarians do practically and helpfully to work with AI in the future as well as highlighting its huge failings of course? Which in time will decrease I am sure.
Interesting Darryl. I had not picked up on the fossil relationship, I’ve often thought when I say FOSIL they will look for fossil and not find it but this is a nice connection that I will now share.
Hello and welcome Jannath, it is lovely to hear your journey and passion for your position with FOSIL. There are several FOSIL Group members who have been using FOSIL within the curriculum and I am sure they may come along soon to say hello. I do a lot of training on using FOSIL within the curriculum so if you are interested in that you can find me here…
I just thought I would share my latest podcast with you. Empowering learning through ChatGPT: Insights from school librarians. I was joined by John Royce, Jeri Hurd, Susan Merrick and Sabrina Cox.